The Excalibur window definitely leaks air and it only gets worse as the winds increase. They actually list their window at a 0. The mil thickness of the extrusions 0.
There is no industry standard. The Excalibur has a very thin profile and requires probably more reinforcement and engineering than is currently in the window. The window is not going to collapse on itself nor is it class leading with its design pressure rating.
It is not aiming to do so either. I wouldn't know where to send you to for seal failure data. The Window and Door Magazine might be a good starting point. As I prefaced, the high incidence of seal failure is just my personal experience in comparison with other windows.
Certainly no one is perfect and perhaps it is just bad timing, but there seem to be quite a few remakes coming in of late. There is no data to my knowledge to indicate that seal failure rates differ between Intercept and Super Spacer.
If you ask either of those camps, you will get different answers. If they are, that would explain dissimilar rates of failure between their products and other privately manufactured Cardinal, Guardian, PPG, etc other glass manufacturers products. I also think that the design of the window can certainly play a role in seal failure.
I window that expands and contracts depending on the reinforcement and structure in the extrusion will place more sheer stress on the IGU and increase its likelihood of failure. Triple glazing is probably the glaring missing component.
A window that does not have an option for triple glazing while other windows in the same manufacturers line do speaks to the structure of a window in my opinion.
The aesthetics on the Excalibur are pretty plain jane but again that is subjective. Please let me reiterate that I am not slamming the Excalibur. There is only one poster that I know of on here, who I think was banned, that was very anti-Excalibur.
The Excalibur is a price point window and will certainly fill and opening. Are there better windows, certainly. Are there plenty of windows in the same price bracket that Excaliburs typically fall that are better, sure. Is it wise to put a window that leaks that much air into and opening when you are trying to combat energy losses, probably not.
Re: Alside Excalibur 13 Post by phils » Wed Nov 18, am how do you find the air infiltration data on some of the other windows that I am considering? I'm getting confused about government efficiency standards that do not consider cfm's?! It should be. It is not figured into U-Value calculations but it is still a very important number. You can have a well insulated frame and a great glass package, but if the window leaks air badly what's the point?
That is why we talk about air infiltration on this site when discussing particular windows. You WILL get what you pay for in windows. There isn't such a thing as low priced, high quality windows. I got new windows that were reported as consumers digest best buy. The rep from Alside 4 times. The good thing fresh air blowing on you when your siting on the sofa. I was told these were a lifetime warranty. Buy different brand dont spend you money on this junk they dont stay behind their product.
I got a quote for excalibur windows from all weather seal 21 for 10grand. I live in a home my windows now are wood windows single glass pane and leak air from the top and sides.
I can't afford a more expensive window but im thinking I will be saving in a long run. My consumers bill will pay for the windows type of thought. Now what is your opinion. My bill is amonth. I would never recommend putting a cheap window in just because that's all you can afford right now. I would put in a good quality window even if you have to do a few at a time. You could also visit the old house forum on this site for some suggestions from pople who own older homes and ask about less expensive alternatives to replacing all your windows.
Typically in a house the age of yours, new windows will not be a panacea for energy efficiency as there are too many other areas that need to be improved on first such as attic insulation. We got an estimate done for our windows, we're replacing 19 windows and one patio door. Double life time warrenty that covers everything, the company has been around for over 45 years and standing strong.
The warrenty covers parts and labor. They're replacing all the windows, bad rotten wood and recapping everything including garage door. The windows are the Alside excalibur Energy Series with Milenium windows? The estimate was for 10k Pellas would cost us around 25k and we can't afford that at the moment. We've had other estimates done ranging from 8,, but the warrenty and windows aren't as "good" as what we got from the Alside estimate.
Is 10 k for that many windows and for all the work and warrenty fair? After reading all the posts about the low quality and poor design of the Alside Excalibur and you are still asking if 10k is a good deal? I don't get it. You need to increase your budget and buy a quality window in stages. Okna, gorell, soft lite and sunrise seem to be the windows most professional window guys recommend. My My what scathing reviews on Alside windows.
If one didn't know better they'd think the forum was dominated by other window reps. I'm 59 years old been in construction since I was 17 I have run a window and siding business for the last 32 years.
I have put in just about every window on the market. The rap the Alside windows are getting in here range from laughable to absurd. Is it the best window on the market, definitely not. Is it the quality that some are claiming in here, absolutely not. Do you need to buy a Mercedes to get , miles on the engine? I have installed 's of Alside windows over the years from Eternal welds to the Ultramax dog. I also offer a 15 year personal labor warranty on any Alside window we install. I can assure you my phone is not ringing off the hook with claims.
I have had Alside windows in my house for the past twenty years. Outside of replacing a few finger pulls and re-screening they have performed flawlessly. No twisting,balance failures,or wind infiltration. Contrary to what has been said on this forum, installing Alside windows doesn't turn your home into a portal to Hell.
Most of the complaints in this forum are consistent with installation flaws. Those of you who are having such problem with repairs should look to lower your cost for the product and spend the money on quality installers.
Those of you who have had them installed by "reputable" companies may need to do a bit more research before agreeing to a contract. I've had the Excalibur windows for 9 years, and they have been fantastic!
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Like 1 Save. Sort by: Oldest. Newest Oldest. Then Here is a link that might be useful: Excalibur Warranty. Like Save. Windows on Washington Ltd 12 years ago. I would rather have no warranty on a Toyota Camry than a bumper to bumper warranty on a Yugo.
That is best analogy I can come up with. Related Discussions Window help!!!! We are using Anderson , recommended by our architect as a great mid range window. I have heard that Marvin is more expensive and the Anderson is just as nice, depending on your house.
If it is a million dollar house you will want a higher quality window. I haven't heard of the alside ultramax.
Hi Jason Right now it looks like two separate houses stacked on top of each other. I would recommend you do arbors over the two sets of first floor windows in BM White Dove, with flowering vines on both sides. Remove all the hedges and plant varying heights of annuals, Hydrangea's, Camilla's, Azalea's, to name a few. Create wider steps at the door and possibly a stepping stone path with grass in between to the curb. If there's nothing wrong with your windows, I wouldn't replace and would the replacements be vinyl?
Tinting and frosting aren't upgrades in my opinion. I have never heard of the company or brand, but an upgrade to me would be a superior brand or material. And the only way to know if you are getting a deal is to get a comparable quote from a company that did not knock on your door I had to laugh when a cheap vinyl window rep knocked on my door
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